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War in Iraq
Indexing reports and comments from November & December, 2004

This page lists all postings from November - December 2004.

Click here for the most recent postings.

For earlier stories:

bullet Postings from Jan - June, 2007
bullet All postings from 2006
bulletJanuary - June, 2005
bulletJune through October, 2003.
bulletMarch 18 through May, 2003
bulletMarch 5 - 17, 2003
bulletFebruary, 2003
bulletJanuary, 2003
bullet November and December 2002
bullet Stories posted up through October, 2002

The Presbyterian Peacemaking Program maintains a good page of resources on Iraq.

A new kind of conscientious objector

The Rev. John Mann, who was recently called to serve a church in Glasgow, Scotland, after years as a minister in the PC(USA), has been deeply involved in ministering to and standing with Rose Gentle, whose son was killed in Iraq in June, 2004.

Speaking at a showing of a new video/film being produced to tell the story of Gordon Gentle and his mother’s activities subsequent to his death, he describes what it's like to be an American these days, and announces his stand as a "conscientious objector" -- but with a new and broadened meaning.   [12-23-04]

How might we really "support our troops"?

In the past couple days we've received two provocative comments on the state of U.S. troops in Iraq, and how we might be genuinely supportive of them.   [12-16-04]

Help them see options

Mike Kress, an Air Force veteran (1987-'94) who served in the Persian Gulf (Operation Southern Watch) and left the military as a conscientious objector, urges peace groups to work with young people who are being targeted for military recruitment, and with men and women currently in the military, to help them see other options than the "spiraling cycle of violence" now being carried on in Iraq.

This is posted on the Common Dreams website.  Thanks to Kathy Conner for pointing us to it.

Be really helpful

And Susan Lenfestey, a Minneapolis writer, suggests that we might support our troops in ways more useful than those "now-ubiquitous support-our-troops vinyl ribbons" that we see on so many gas-guzzling SUVs. For instance, she people might contribute for the legal defense of the eight soldiers who are challenging the Army's action to extend their service in Iraq well beyond the time that they agreed. Or, she asks, might it mean "visiting some of the 10,000 wounded and maimed soldiers in a veterans hospital near you?" That might be difficult, since the government doesn't really want us to know they're there.

There are more possibilities, too - for genuine support for the troops. Check out her op-ed essay from the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

A cry against the torture

Bruce Gillette sends this note:

In the name of Jesus Christ Almighty, why are people representing our government, paid by us, writing filth on the Korans of helpless prisoners? Is this American? Is it Christian? What are our moral values? Where are the clergymen on this?

Read it all in a Molly Ivins column posted on CommonDreams.  [12-14-04]

Fear not? Well, there apparently are folks who want us to be afraid.

Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power

Thom Hartmann, writing for Common Dreams, relates the contents of a three-hour documentary aired in October by BBC, which claims to offer evidence that the threat of the Cold War was kept alive in the 1970s, following Richard Nixon's departure from the White House and his replacement by Gerald Ford, long after there was no real danger. The threat was unsubstantiated reports of "weapons of mass destruction," for which no evidence was ever produced. The chief proponents of the SMD threat were Ford's Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, and his Chief of Staff Dick Cheney. They did this "by claiming that the Soviets had secret weapons of mass destruction that the president didn't know about, that the CIA didn't know about, that nobody but them knew about. And, they said, because of those weapons, the US must redirect billions of dollars away from domestic programs and instead give the money to defense contractors for whom these two men would one day work."

The BBC asked Dr. Anne Cahn, a member of the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency during that time, about the claimed threats. She said, "I would say that all of it was fantasy."

But it did the job: keeping the American people in a state of fear, keeping the military budget high, and the government's control reinforced.

Published on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
Thanks to Bob Boehlke
   [12-17-04]

Christian Peacemakers living in Baghdad are surrounded by fear ... and by friends   [12-1-04]

Sheila Provencher, a member of a Christian Peacemaker Team in Iraq, offers a graphic description of life in Baghdad.  She begins:

Iraq feels like a prison. Our neighborhood is surrounded by the dangerous places our friends tell us to avoid. People in neighborhoods like Haifa Street are surrounded by daily gun battles between insurgents (foreign and Iraqi) and soldiers (U.S. and Iraqi). Baghdad itself is surrounded by roads known for everything from kidnapping to explosions.

But she ends by affirming the many friends she has found there -- willing to offer hospitality even at risk to themselves. 

We are surrounded by grace. We are surrounded by family. We are surrounded by the breath of life. Grace is infinite, everyone is our Family, and every breath is the Breath of God.

When, how, will we open our eyes? And how will we act once we see?

Iraq:  a holy war from two sides?

Bruce Gillette shares two recent reports on how both sides in the Iraq war see themselves engaging in a holy war.   [11-12-04]

bullet Norman Solomon quotes a US Lt. Colonel as saying that "The enemy has got a face. He's called Satan. He's in Fallujah, and we're going to destroy him."
 
bulletAnd writing in the Toronto Star, Haroon Siddiqui notes holy-war convictions and passions on both sides, but adds:

This is not the Crusade. But the religious overtones do take on added meaning since the American commander-in-chief, just anointed by his electorate for being a committed Christian, claims that God guides his foreign policy.

So does Osama bin Laden.

So do many of the Iraqi insurgents.

bulletAnd Jill Rachel Jacobs, a writer and humorist living in New York City, writes a letter to God asking for a little clarification of the whole mess.
This page lists all postings from November - December 2004.

Click here for the most recent postings.

For earlier stories:

bullet Postings from Jan - June, 2007
bullet All postings from 2006
bullet January - June, 2005
bulletJune through October, 2003.
bulletMarch 18 through May, 2003
bulletMarch 5 - 17, 2003
bulletFebruary, 2003
bulletJanuary, 2003
bullet November and December 2002
bullet Stories posted up through October, 2002

The Presbyterian Peacemaking Program maintains a good page of resources on Iraq.